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Hello, I'm a French user and I'm making edits on all Constance of Brittany-related pages in different languages. My edits are based on Michael Jones' and Judith Everard's The Charters of Duchess Constance of Brittany and her Family (1171-1221). Here are the main edits I mean to make:
- Constance married Ranulph in February 1189.
- Constance married Guy of Thouars between 27th August 1199 and October 1199 (Constance and Guy are mentioned together for the first time in October 1199 and a charter made by Guy on August 27, 1199 specifies that he still was in his second regnal year at the time).
I also made edits about Constance's brother William and her supposed daughter Margaret of Thouars on the English, French, Italian and Spanish articles. As I don't speak Russian, it would be wonderful if a Russian-speaker could make these edits for me.--Aziliz Breizh (обс) 15:19, 1 сентября 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you! Although the dates have differences. The Annales Sestrienses refer to the second marriage in 1188 (reported on this here). Article in any case needs work, your information will be useful.--Vladimir Solovjev обс 15:39, 1 сентября 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yes, I forgot the 1188/1189 problem. In Everard and Jones' book, the date is "3 February 1188 or 1189" (p 99). In Everard's book Brittany and the Angevins, she says Ranulph was knighted in late 1188 and married Constance a few months later. Here's what she notes (p 157):
- Thanks. Yes, I forgot the 1188/1189 problem. In Everard and Jones' book, the date is "3 February 1188 or 1189" (p 99). In Everard's book Brittany and the Angevins, she says Ranulph was knighted in late 1188 and married Constance a few months later. Here's what she notes (p 157):
The king allowed Ranulf to enter his inheritance at the end of 1188, and the marriage to Constance occurred a few months later.40
40 Annales cestrienses or the chronicle of the abbey of St Werburg at Chester, Lancs. and Cheshire Record Society, xiv, 1887, pp. 25, 29, 41. These annals (p. 41) record that Henry II knighted Ranulf on 1 January, and gave him Constance in marriage on 3 February. This is under the rubric for 1188, but uncertainty as to the commencement of the year means these events may have taken place in 1189. See also G. Barraclough (ed. and trans.), `The annals of Dieulacres abbey', The Cheshire Sheaf, 3rd ser., lii (1957), 17±27 at 20; J. W. Alexander, Ranulf of Chester: A Relic of the Conquest, Athens, Georgia, 1983, p. 12 and Charters, p. 99."--Aziliz Breizh (обс) 12:05, 3 сентября 2016 (UTC)