Википедия:Заявки на статус бота/King Willan Bot

Участник:King Willan Bot

King Willan Bot (обс. · вклад · журналы · блокировки · фильтры)

Botmaster: fr:User:King Willan

Цель / Purpose

I request for the bot flag because an admin on an other wiki block me bot because I don't have the bot flag on this wiki. I have the bot flag on no:User:King Willan Bot and vo:User:King Willan Bot. All bot: fr:User:King Willan#Mes bots--King Willan Bot 02:39, 3 февраля 2008 (UTC)

Технические подробности / Technical details

Pywikipedia --> Interwiki --> Automatic 20H/Day

Обсуждение / Discussion

Thank you!--King Willan Bot 12:31, 2 февраля 2008 (UTC)

Hello !

Some bot owners here might already know me, I am NicDumZ, an experienced French bot owner running DumZiBoT on fr: (see stats), on en:, and on de:.

After some hesitations on whether I should do this or not, I go on every wiki where this user has requested a flag to comment his request : One could not deny that King Willan is showing good willingness, seems very honest and motivated, and that he could be trusted; Still, on fr:, his home wiki, we have denied his bot flag request. Upon discussion, it turns out that King Willan is a bit young and that he is not experienced at all in interwikis and bot handling :

• When asked about some dubious edits his bot made (e.g. [1] and [2]), he answered (rough translation) Well, the program asked me what to do; I checked the first foreign interwiki, then clicked on the fr: interwiki from the foreign page; Since it didn't bring me back to my originating page, I removed the interwikis. I think that this is showing some serious misunderstanding of the interwiki system, proving that this user is not qualified enough in interwiki handling.
• We explained him that he was mistaken on these particular edits, and why : he answered back that his pywikipedia copy was out of date (he downloaded a 08/2007 snapshot from sourceforge), and that surely the framework had misleaded him and that it wasn't his fault. :s
• He asked on several places technical questions on pywikipedia, proving that he does not know how this framework works, and probably that he does not understand python :
  • On the French Village Pump : fr:Wikipédia:Le Bistro/29 janvier 2008#Pywikipedia where he asks how -start works
  • On the flag request page : fr:Wikipédia:Bot/Statut#Bot allez plus vite? (section title is Bot more fast? with a French fault) where he asks how he can speed up his bot (why should he need it to do this ? Sounds to me that he is somewhat in the wrong direction)
• I strongly believe that he his not able to speak or understand English enough to communicate with other projects, to explain what he did, or simply to understand their policies:
  • The technical questions he asked have easy answers in English in the documentation of the framework.
  • When I went on his de: and en: requests to comment them, he asked me to translate in French what I wrote (diff: [3])
  • Moreover, this diff [4], where he states "The bad version no take this fonction. My version take now this fonction" is quite... significant. :(

We're trying to see what can be done, on fr:, to teach him to use his tools properly, but for all the reasons stated above, I consider that, as of now, letting him have a botflag on so many projects at once would be very, very treacherous.

I will not be monitoring this page; Please, let me now on my French talk page if you have any questions, remarks, or if any further discussion goes on here.

Thanks a lot.

NicDumZ ~ 14:32, 5 февраля 2008 (UTC)

• Why not? — Obersachse 17:45, 11 февраля 2008 (UTC)
• I suggest to wait until he get the bot flag in fr:. MaxiMaxiMax 08:21, 14 февраля 2008 (UTC)

• во французской вики 1 за (автор бота) и 6 против [5], предлагаю в статусе отказать, для перестраховки --sk 21:12, 18 февраля 2008 (UTC)
• Давайте откажем, во французской отказали. Wind 23:10, 27 марта 2008 (UTC)
• И в английской отказали en:Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/King Willan Bot --Latitude 17:57, 30 марта 2008 (UTC)

Итог / Summary

• В других разделах Википедии отказали в флаге из-за незнания участником элементарных технических вещей. Думаю, что мы лучше не будем рисковать. Если участник наберётся больше опыта, то может подать новую заявку.
• The bot flag is denied till other wikis will grant. — Obersachse 08:52, 13 апреля 2008 (UTC)